Indonesian guide

Anda vs Kamu: How to Say "You" Politely in Indonesian

Updated · Politeness for learners of Indonesian

Indonesian grammar is famously simple: no verb conjugations, no grammatical gender, no tenses to memorize. Politeness, though, is anything but automatic. It lives in the words you choose for "you" and "I". Textbooks teach Anda and kamu, but in real conversations Indonesians more often say Bapak, Ibu, Mas, Mbak or Kak. This guide explains each form, when to use it, and how formal and casual Indonesian differ.

The main ways to say "you"

Word Register Use
Bapak / Pak Respectful Adult men, older men, superiors, officials, customers
Ibu / Bu Respectful Adult women, older women, superiors, officials, customers
Anda Formal, impersonal Writing, ads, signs, forms, speeches, formal interviews
Mas / Mbak Friendly-respectful Young-ish men and women, service staff (especially in Java and Jakarta)
Kak Friendly-respectful Someone a bit older, or as a neutral polite term in shops and online
kamu Informal Friends, partners, peers, people younger than you
kau / engkau Informal or poetic Songs and literature; kau is casual in some regions
lu / lo Very casual, Jakarta slang Close friends in Jakarta, with gue or gua for "I"

The surprise for most learners is that Anda is not the everyday polite "you". It was promoted as a neutral, formal pronoun, and it's perfect for writing and announcements: Apakah Anda sudah mendaftar? ("Have you registered?"). Face to face, though, it can sound stiff, like a salesperson or a TV presenter. Indonesians usually show respect with Bapak and Ibu instead: Bapak mau ke mana? ("Where are you going, sir?")

Saying "I": saya vs aku

If you're not sure, use saya. It's never wrong.

When to use each form

Formal vs casual Indonesian

Beyond pronouns, Indonesian has a standard, formal style (bahasa baku) and a casual spoken style. The casual style shortens or swaps many common words.

Formal Casual Meaning
tidak nggak / gak not
sudah udah already
bagaimana gimana how
saja aja just
terima kasih makasih thank you
membantu bantuin help

In polite speech with Pak or Bu, people use the formal or neutral forms. With friends, the casual forms are normal, and using only formal words can sound like a news reader.

Polite words that go with them

Example sentences

English Casual Polite
How are you? Gimana kabarnya? Apa kabar, Pak?
Where do you live? Kamu tinggal di mana? Ibu tinggal di mana?
Have you eaten? Udah makan belum? Bapak sudah makan?
Can you help me? Bisa bantuin aku nggak? Pak, boleh saya minta tolong?
I don't know. Aku nggak tahu. Saya tidak tahu, Bu.
Have a seat. Duduk aja. Silakan duduk, Pak.
Thank you! Makasih, ya! Terima kasih banyak, Bu.
Could I see the menu? (to a server) Mas, menunya dong. Permisi, Mbak, boleh minta menunya?

Notice how the polite versions use a title instead of a pronoun, and swap casual words (udah, nggak, aja) for standard ones (sudah, tidak).

Common mistakes

FAQ

Is Anda polite?

Yes, but formally and impersonally. It's the right choice for writing, ads, forms and speeches. In face-to-face conversation, most Indonesians use Bapak, Ibu, Mas, Mbak or Kak instead, which sound respectful and warmer.

What should I call a stranger?

Pak for a man and Bu for a woman if they look older than you or are in a formal role. For someone around your age, Mas or Mbak in Java and Jakarta, or Kak, which works almost anywhere.

When can I use kamu?

With friends, partners, classmates and people clearly younger than you, or when someone has started using kamu and aku with you first.

What's the difference between Mas, Mbak and Kak?

Mas (for men) and Mbak (for women) come from Javanese and are common in Java and Jakarta for young adults and service staff. Kak, from kakak ("older sibling"), is gender-neutral and widely used in shops, online and across regions.

Is it the same in Malaysia?

Malaysian Malay shares much of the grammar but has its own conventions, such as awak, encik and puan. Some words, including kamu, can carry a different tone there, so check local usage before you visit.